The state will not take away your house
December 17, 2018
By: Mark Harvey
Email: harvemb@dshs.wa.gov
“The State will take the house!”
No, it won’t.
Now, let’s back up:
Obviously, I go on and on about where to call, or look for “help” – And “help” can take a million forms. It might be help with health insurance (Medicare?), or help with reducing or eliminating some bills, so you can make it from month-to-month, or help at home after a hospitalization, or help with grab-bars, or help with handling a loved one’s dementia or or or…
And “help” only helps, if it helps! It does NOT help if you can’t get it because you’re afraid that you’ll lose everything you own if you even dare to ask for it! Right. Here’s the truth:
“The State will take the house” is the most common translation I hear for what I call, “Medicaid recovery” or “estate recovery.” It ONLY applies to people who have Medicaid health insurance and/or some form of Medicaid-funded “long-term care,” i.e. Medicaid is paying for nursing home/facility care OR some form of in-home care. That’s it. Period.
The key word here is “Medicaid.” First, Medicaid is NOT Medicare, so estate recovery doesn’t apply to anything relating to Medicare. It also doesn’t apply to congregate nutrition, or privately paid in-home care, or Home Health, or caregiver support, or Respite, or legal assistance or any of roughly seven million other things I could rattle-off.
In fact, “Medicaid recovery” doesn’t even apply to some things that Medicaid actually pays for, e.g. the Medicare Savings Programs (those are those weird acronyms: QMB, SLMB, etc.) that help a lot of us with our Medicare Part B premiums and/or co-pays, or some other forms of in-home help for unpaid family caregivers (i.e. “Medicaid Alternative Care” or “Targeted Services for Older Adults).
Actually, “Medicaid recovery” does NOT apply to most of the services, programs and resources that you might encounter if you called any of the numbers at the end of this column – And it certainly does NOT apply (ever, under any circumstances!) to conversations! So, that means that you can call any of the “Information & Assistance” offices below and talk to decent people about whatever is on your mind (ask your questions, tell your story, etc.), then see what might be available that could help. IF some program or benefit that might help you could be subject to “Medicaid recovery,” they will tell you that. And that won’t cost you anything.
They will also tell you what it means (and what it doesn’t mean), how it works, potential ways to reduce or eliminate it (depending upon your personal circumstances), etc. – So, you are risking nothing by making that phone call, and you can ALWAYS decide not to apply for whatever it is, if that’s your choice.
Further, if you happen to be American Indian/Alaska Native, there are even MORE restrictions on “Medicaid recovery” which, often, eliminate it.
I have seen WAY more money lost – Not to mention fear, pain and grief! – Due to not asking for a little help, than I’ve ever seen lost to Medicaid recovery.
Obviously, I live in a universe of weird acronyms and programs, with arcane, labyrinthine regulations and procedures, designed to drive normally intelligent people to the brink of something that most of us don’t want to be on the brink of. I would change that, if I could, but I can’t.
So, the choice I have to offer you is to have a conversation with genuinely decent human beings, who will tell you the truth and not charge you anything for it, or try to sell you anything. Still feeling spooky? Then, email me at harvemb@dshs.wa.gov and let’s have a private exchange on the matter, then you can decide to do whatever you decide to do…
…which, I hope, will take that fear away.
And replace it with hope.
Information and Assistance Offices in Clallam and Jefferson counties:
Sequim: (800) 801-0070 Port Hadlock: (866) 720-4863
Port Townsend: (800) 801-0050 Forks: (888) 571-6559